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Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:48 pm
by Sol_HSA
eLPuSHeR wrote:My EGA version
I doubt a real-time game would use floyd-steinberg dither. Ordered dither would be more likely, which would yield something like..
..although that's probably better-looking than one might really get. I posterized the image to 6 levels to simulate the limited DAC before reducing colors to 16, but stillI fear the color space may be a bit too well-defined.. anyhoo.
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:09 am
by Asteroth
Although I suck at image altering (very badly). I decided to give my own 'dark' version of the image.
And there you go, the forest in dark world.
Since it clipped it so badly, at least on my computer. Here a little more can be seen:
http://grimrock.nexusmods.com/Images/81
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:08 am
by eLPuSHeR
Sol_HSA wrote:eLPuSHeR wrote:My EGA version
I doubt a real-time game would use floyd-steinberg dither. Ordered dither would be more likely, which would yield something like..
..although that's probably better-looking than one might really get. I posterized the image to 6 levels to simulate the limited DAC before reducing colors to 16, but stillI fear the color space may be a bit too well-defined.. anyhoo.
This is more EGA-ish (No dithering at all. Just playing with RGB channel)

Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:31 am
by Asteroth
That's odd. I can't see your images eLPuSHeR.
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:55 am
by eLPuSHeR
I have checked them and they display ok. Even after reloading the page (Shift-reload) on Firefox. What browser are you using? And are you using any proxy or something like that?
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:21 pm
by Komag
I can't see them either, just says "image" - using up-to-date Firefox
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:43 pm
by Asteroth
eLPuSHeR wrote:I have checked them and they display ok. Even after reloading the page (Shift-reload) on Firefox. What browser are you using? And are you using any proxy or something like that?
Well I'm using internet explorer, plain no proxies. However it sounds from Komag like IE isn't the problem.
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:00 pm
by Dr.Disaster
Komag wrote:I can't see them either, just says "image" - using up-to-date Firefox
El's images show up like all others in my Firefox; perhaps a hoster problem or some add-on blocking it.
Sol_HSA wrote:
..although that's probably better-looking than one might really get. I posterized the image to 6 levels to simulate the limited DAC before reducing colors to 16, but stillI fear the color space may be a bit too well-defined.. anyhoo.
Me thinks this might be the best possible EGA representation. I've seen a few static pictures of such quality when EGA was the best one could have. No idea how they did it back then but they definately used more then just 16 colors from the available 64.
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:23 am
by eLPuSHeR
Agreed. Using dithering gives the impression of more colours than they really are. In this case Bayer dithering is used, which is plain ugly but was used a lot because it's faster than error-diffusion (Floyd-steinberg for instance).
And now that we are talking about dithering, I remember Eye of the Beholder 2 used dithering when run on EGA mode. I also remember it was slightly slower running it on my AMSTRAD PC2086 on EGA mode than MCGA (back in the eighties). I think the dithering used was an in-house one, but I am not sure. I will check it this afternoon using DOSBox.
Re: Fan modding grimrock 2 picture
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:48 am
by eLPuSHeR
Komag wrote:I can't see them either, just says "image" - using up-to-date Firefox
That's plain odd. I can see them using both Firefox 19.0.2 and IE 10 running from two different PCs.