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Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:46 pm
by Jouki
yeah It'd be great especially secret buttons or more versions of grass (I mean decoration grass) :)

Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:52 pm
by NutJob
Jouki wrote:yeah It'd be great especially secret buttons or more versions of grass (I mean decoration grass) :)

I hope secret buttons are not included. While we, modders, may see them as second nature the typical user probably doesn't. So having these buttons retextured to "blend" even better into a wall would eventually be a detriment to the average player [not even aware there's new ways to look at wall textures for secrets]. Just my thought and opinion on that.

Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:22 pm
by Lark
That's a good observation, NutJob, and we should all take heed. But such issues could be mitigated by leaving a clue as to where the secret button might be located such as in Skuggasveinn's 8th tutorial? You could include a map somewhere to a specific location with an arrow pointing about where the button is located? Yes, such secret buttons, and many other things, can be misused, but most modders will use them responsibly... Right? Hey, I just like options!

Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:42 pm
by NutJob
Lark wrote:That's a good observation, NutJob, and we should all take heed. But such issues could be mitigated by leaving a clue as to where the secret button might be located such as in Skuggasveinn's 8th tutorial? You could include a map somewhere to a specific location with an arrow pointing about where the button is located? Yes, such secret buttons, and many other things, can be misused, but most modders will use them responsibly... Right? Hey, I just like options!
Absolutely, and I'm on-board with that. I like opinions about options myself; and the more, the better, for heightened social determination and acceptance. Wonder twin powers activate! Form of Hive Mind. I'm coming out of a coding high (is that real?) currently so I'll have to review what I just said in a few hours to ensure it's sensible. Probably not. No time to stop typing and smell the caffeine.

Matt

Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:33 pm
by Jouki
NutJob wrote:
Jouki wrote:yeah It'd be great especially secret buttons or more versions of grass (I mean decoration grass) :)

I hope secret buttons are not included. While we, modders, may see them as second nature the typical user probably doesn't. So having these buttons retextured to "blend" even better into a wall would eventually be a detriment to the average player [not even aware there's new ways to look at wall textures for secrets]. Just my thought and opinion on that.
I hope I understood what you and lark mean (english is not my birth language :D ) and I'm with Lark. I really like options you can do in editor. Your argument is right but as Lark said many modders would use it responsibly - with map or places where it'd obvious "there must be a button". Actually when I was playing the original game I was searching for some secret buttons on beach :D but never found :( (And untextured model is the reason why :P )

Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:05 pm
by Halluinoid
the beach wall secret button would be great

is it possible that some kind of update/ patch comes out later this year that would fix that? 8-)

Re: Some objects not textured ?

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:01 pm
by minmay
Adding a beach wall secret button sounds terrible to me. Players will expect those walls to have no secret buttons so they'll just pass it by unless they're specifically spoiled about the addition. Also, the model you're thinking of would require some pretty significant revision (the current UV map has terrible seams, for starters).