Grimrock

THOM wrote:

Duncan1246 wrote:So please a hint...

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The ghostbowl and the ghostly door in front of the alcove are from the same material...

Yes, but nothing happens except the loud sound......... what to do next, that is my quest
The point is

Still not a complete spoiler:

THOM wrote:

Duncan1246 wrote: An unknown bug: I try to cast a "one icon"-water spell (my mistake, never tested in main game) and get this:

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[string "Champion.lua"]:0: attempt to index a nil value
stack traceback:
	[string "Champion.lua"]: in function 'addTrait'
	[string "Champion.lua"]: in function 'castSpell'
	[string "RunePanel.lua"]: in function 'updatePanel'
	[string "AttackPanel.lua"]: in function 'update'
	[string "AttackPanel.lua"]: in function 'update'
	[string "Gui.lua"]: in function 'draw'
	[string "GameMode.lua"]: in function 'update'
	[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in function 'display'
	[string "Grimrock.lua"]: in main chunk

It seems, that it is not possible for the engine to add the trait to your champion, that he successfully learned a new spell.
I have no idea where this comes from and it exceeds my coding-skills.

Maybe the post of AndakRainor can help?

Unless I am confusing it with something else, it appears to be a bug of the game engine I know well enough!

To explain it a little, it is a crash that occurs when an imported character casts a new spell for the first time. The game then tries to add the trait of that spell to the character, and for some reason at that point the game "checks" all the traits the champion has, and if it finds any trait that was defined in the previous game but not in the current mod, then it will crash.

Modders can't do anything about it with the official scripting reference methods (we cannot get a list of the traits a champion has).

My little editor lets you edit your saved game files and for example clean the unwanted traits that remain from your previous game.

THOM wrote:Still not a complete spoiler:

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Why placing the bowl only infront of the alcove?

I tried every tile in the room, and even some elsewhere...

AndakRainor wrote: Unless I am confusing it with something else, it appears to be a bug of the game engine I know well enough!

To explain it a little, it is a crash that occurs when an imported character casts a new spell for the first time. The game then tries to add the trait of that spell to the character, and for some reason at that point the game "checks" all the traits the champion has, and if it finds any trait that was defined in the previous game but not in the current mod, then it will crash.

Modders can't do anything about it with the official scripting reference methods (we cannot get a list of the traits a champion has).

My little editor lets you edit your saved game files and for example clean the unwanted traits that remain from your previous game.

Thanks for the explanation, i have seen this before on loading a game with an imported party, it's the first time the game works except on the casting of the news spells.
I hope these spells aren't absolutely necessary to finish the game!

Duncan1246 wrote:

THOM wrote:Still not a complete spoiler:

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Why placing the bowl only infront of the alcove?

I tried every tile in the room, and even some elsewhere...

Duncan1246 wrote:I hope these spells aren't absolutely necessary to finish the game!

No, they aren't. There is one puzzle existing which can't be solved without - but it is completly optional.

THOM wrote:

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Oh mei. Place it into the alcove.

Players are always silly... I don't try this... because of the barrier...

And modders are always sadistic.

THOM wrote:

Duncan1246 wrote:I hope these spells aren't absolutely necessary to finish the game!

No, they aren't. There is one puzzle existing which can't be solved without - but it is completly optional.

Why not try the tool and clean your save instead of continuing without casting ?