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Re: Finding out Spells

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:30 pm
by Aro
Bardamu wrote: Hey Aro, would it matter to you, making me a word-doc? :)
When your informatics are as good as your maths.
But good to know, 246 combinations are really easy. DM had more.
I hope it helps...

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abc
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abi
acd
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acg
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cde
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abcd
abce
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abcg
abch
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abde
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abdg
abdh
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abeg
abeh
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abfg
abfh
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abhi
acde
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acfg
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afgh
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bcde
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bcdg
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bceg
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bdef
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bdfg
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bdgh
bdgi
bdhi
befg
befh
befi
begh
begi
behi
bfgh
bfgi
bfhi
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cdef
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cdeh
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cdfg
cdfh
cdfi
cdgh
cdgi
cdhi
cefg
cefh
cefi
cegh
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cfgh
cfgi
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defg
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defi
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dehi
dfgh
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abcde
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abcfg
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cdfhi
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cefgh
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cefhi
ceghi
cfghi
defgh
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defhi
deghi
dfghi
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abcdef
abcdeg
abcdeh
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abcdfg
abcdfh
abcdfi
abcdgh
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abcdhi
abcefg
abcefh
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abcegh
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adefgh
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bcdefg
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cdefgh
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abcdefg
abcdefh
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adefghi
bcdefgh
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abcdefgh
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abcdefhi
abcdeghi
abcdfghi
abcefghi
abdefghi
acdefghi
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abcdefghi

Re: Finding out Spells

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:36 pm
by Bardamu
Man, you are great!

Thx a lot from Hamburg/Germany!

Re: Finding out Spells

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:47 pm
by Aro
Bardamu wrote:Man, you are great!

Thx a lot from Hamburg/Germany!
Well, I hope devs included some special steam achievment for you: "Brute-force spell researcher" :-)
Frankly, I hope I find all spells on scrolls. But you may find some easter-eggs or bonus spells this way...

Re: Finding out Spells

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:55 pm
by PSY
There are 511 total possible spell combinations with 1-9 runes. You have to take into consideration that the order in which you activate the runes doesn't matter. Thit fact eliminates a lot of combinations.
4 and 5 runes spells have the most possible combinations (126 each). 3 and 6 runes spells have 84 each, 7 and 2 runes spells 36 each, 8 and 1 runes spells 9 each, and a spell using all 9 runes has obvously only 1 combination.

Makes a total of 9+36+84+126+126+84+36+9+1 = 511


...If I'm not totally mistaken. Please correct me if I'm wrong Petri :mrgreen:


Cheers,
PSY

P.S. Aro was faster :)
P.S.S. Example with 5 runes for those guys who're interested in the calculation:
Having a spell with 5 runes means, there are 9 possible options for the first rune, 8 for the second, 7 for the third, 6 for the fourth and 5 for the fifth, making a total of 9*8*7*6*5 = 15120 spells with 5 runes.
BUT: As the order of the runes doesn't matter, the total spell number has to be divided by the total possible combinations of 5 runes, which would be 5*4*3*2*1 = 120.
So the correct number of spells using 5 runes is 15120 / 120 = 126.