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ice guardian and "uggardian"?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:38 am
by FeMaiden
okay, forgive me for this dumb discussion topic but
something always bugged me since log!

they have those ice guys
called "ice guardians"

and then they have fire versions of them
called "uggardians"


why did they name them "uggardians" and not just "fire Guardians"?

was it to add more flavor to the world and not just calling them something generic? but then why did they then go with the generic "ice Guardian"
why not somethinf more flavorful like "Freegardian" or something?

laziness?

I suppose it's irrelevant since the player never actually sees what these monsters are called? and then the dungoen author could just put in their own notes and backstory calling these guys whatever they want to call them in their lore?
and seeing as you can name the bosses, you could put an ice guardian boss and have the name "Frosty" displayed.

so did the devs just call it generic "ice Guardian" because it doesn't matter anyway?

it's kind of like they call the "ghoul" just "Undead" instead of a ghoul lol?

Re: ice guardian and "uggardian"?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:07 am
by Drakkan
why zarchtons are not just merfolks ? etc...

what I think - one of the reasons could be either copyright issues (you are legally obligated to avoid WotC trademarks (campaign setting names, iconic creatures like Beholders or Mind Flayers, etc.) and I also think maybe AH team just wanted add something "theirs" into the world. And finally because there is already fire elemental creature, so having fire elemental and fire guardian could be quite confusing to people. However I agree uggardian is quite lame name :)

Re: ice guardian and "uggardian"?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:55 am
by FeMaiden
Drakkan wrote:why zarchtons are not just merfolks ? etc...

what I think - one of the reasons could be either copyright issues (you are legally obligated to avoid WotC trademarks (campaign setting names, iconic creatures like Beholders or Mind Flayers, etc.) and I also think maybe AH team just wanted add something "theirs" into the world. And finally because there is already fire elemental creature, so having fire elemental and fire guardian could be quite confusing to people. However I agree uggardian is quite lame name :)
well zarktons are called zarktons for flavor and lore.

my point was why did they come up with a clever name for one monster but for it's counterpart, they just gave it something generic.

although i'm not sure I'd consider "uggardian" clever...it sounds like a protector of trendy boots, that don't really look all that good...

my point was, why is the ice guardian just "ice guardian" when they tried to be clever with naming the "uggardian" but not the ice guardian..

also uggardians are a carry over from LoG1, fire elementals did not even exist in that game.

and I think the closest approximation of zarchtons if I were to compare them to D&D monsters, they are more like sahuagin or even the kuo toa from the EoB series